If there were an accident, you would be held liable (see my reply to Valentine). Q ; did you check your mirror before attempting to pass your original exit and try for the 3rd one ? Go through the Cuilfail Tunnel and take the first exit left at the roundabout after the tunnel onto Malling Street/A2029. I don't think so!! He then proceeded to cut out in front of me every time I tried to overtake him on the dual carriageway, repeatedly braked hard reducing his speed to around 40 mph in the overtaking lane. Paul. No, of coursr not, so long as you approach in the correct lane for the route you are taking and correctly signal your intentions e.g avoid a queue for the 1st exit by approaching as if to turn right and then going all the way round to gain priority becaise you are on the roundabout. NOT signally. Many thanks. A roundabout is a traffic circle or rotary it is also a revolving device in children's playgrounds. characterized by a very complicated or involved form. wil have to post a separate conclusion wish the windowwas bigger. why the f..k it is my fault when he shouldn't supposed to be there? characterized by an ostentatious display of importance. displaying or indicative of a condescending manner or tone. Therefore, to go straight ahead, you take whichever lane you are in on entry. I had already taken up position in the left hand lane of the roundabout by this stage and just inched forward a few inches slowly behind the tipper truck to allow the lorry (B) to continue around the corner safely until we both took up a stationary position - I was considering the driver (B) and tried to position my vehicle to allow her to take the corner safely - I positioned my vehicle safely behind the tipper truck, in line with it, until I could not move any further forward towards it - so then I remained stationary. the red car carried on driving & showed no intent on pulling over, secondly, stopping would restrict a major route into town. Verbose: adjective, Using or expressed in more words than are needed Hiya Tiger, hope all goes well with you, sorry had a blonde moment, traffic coming around the roundabout always has right of way, but, having said that if a witness said he drove into the side of you then you might have a small chance, either way a percentage of the collision will be down to you, dfensive driving techniques ( not taught by car instructors ) states, that you must always assume the vehicle is coming about unless their Indicators AND car position show otherwise, you must always be prepared for the fact that another driver may very well change their mind, th eproblem for you in this case is simply this, the police will not attend unless someone is injured or the road is being blocked, in the latter they are only there to keep the peace and control traffic, and ,will tell you to inform your relative insurance companies, which then will depend on who said what to whom, if for example he said he was coming around and you pulled out in front of him then his insurance company will pt the majority of the blame on you, you then tell your insurance company he didnt indicate correctly then the insurance company will say 50/50. I think that, in theory, it may be safe, but an increasing problem at roundabouts is that: I suppose it's on intent. The dvla handbook is just something you might wish to buy for whatever reason. I told her I want to pass around the marking not over it as the Highway Code section 188 said. Approaching the R'bout, all traffic on the R'bout will be to your right. Published at the web's largest poetry site. Ps I do not see how you could not have crossed lanes if you intended to go past 2 exits at some point to get to the 3rd, because the roundabout would have you on the 2nd lane on the approach to get to the 3rd exit. exit one would then be exit 5 on a 4way round about) then that is fine. So does the car already on the roundabout have priority over the car from the right who has not as yet entered? They crossed but as they did so the car behind me honked and sped round to my right shouting out of the window that people are trying to get off the roundabout and I should have my hazards on which was clearly aggresive but my question is, if the child has been pulled back and the road is clear, should you let them pass to avoid any hazard of the child trying to cross or proceed to alleviate the build-up of cars on a busy roundabout. Just so you know there is no such thing at 12 o'clock rule. very happy or proud; jubilant; in high spirits. If the vehicle turning right can clear the roundbout before the other vehicle makes 3/4 turn, than it can go first, no problem with that. Hope all goes well with you, 2 things I want to answer right away and this applies regardless of the situation, 1 .. Traffic from the right always has right of way in any circumstance - when damage to both veh is 1 on front and other on the right hand side, the front end damaged cart will always get the large parentage of the blame no matter what the other drives said, as its an absolute right of way. and 2) if you're approaching and car pulls out from 9 o clock before you've arrived at roundabout, if you're about to hit that car who's fault is it? impartial or objective; disinterested; unbiased/ not concerned; aloof. alias (n.) a temporarily assumed name, other than one's real name. We are gradually updating these posts and will remove this disclaimer when this post is updated. Alaa copy the top bit and take it to the test centre, you are totally correct and the examiner is wrong, I would demand a retest or a pass if thats is all they wrongly failed you on, I would also pass the examiners name onto her employers. We never changed lanes. Even if the vehicle to my right is only approaching the roundabout ? The reason was: when we was approaching a mini roundabout, the examiner told me to go to the right. Watch this...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFCJADJQD3Y quick and active; sharp and or stimulating. Good luck. that exit isn't wide enough for two cars, never mind a bus (8'4" and a car 6'6" approx). It is perfectly correct to go straight over. It's driving without consideration for other road users and contrary to Section 3 of Road Traffic Act 1988. The very best of regards, Paul P Valentine Esq. ( lane discipline dictates, outer dedicated, inner not ) acting in opposition; opposing, esp. to praise in speech or writing, especially in the form of a eulogy. impressive in size, appearance, majestic. Hi. Isn't it true that no one has priority because there is no one on the right? characterized by or expressing goodwill or kindly feelings. Who's fault is it? If there are no lane markings on the roundabout, just at the entry point, then to go straight ahead you can take the shortest route across the roundabout, but be aware that you might make it easier for other drivers who want to take a later exit if you allow them space. to speak or think favorably of, to judge favorably. Plus the question of hazard lights. bitterly distrustful, contemptuous, or pessimistic; sneering. The tone, or quality of feeling, conveyed by a word can range according to its general meaning.Of course, the meaning of a word sometimes changes according to its usage, but generally words have positive, negative, or neutral connotations. The colours of traffic lights are called red, amber (not yellow) and green. Paul, I only C&Pd what the HC said...http://www.highwaycode.info/rule/151 If the answer is no to either the first 2 then you have to share the larger portion of the blame, on the plus side I don’t think the insurance company will blame you entirely. A second lorry (B) approached the roundabout behind me at my six o’clock and took the first turning off the roundabout left, at my 9 o’clock. lacking in seriousness; frivolously insincere. They are coming from your right if you are turning left therefore the give way to the right rule applies. Did you indicate ??? When the U.S. House of Representatives gathered Wednesday to debate the second impeachment of President Donald Trump, following the violent insurrection at the U.S. Capitol last week, it was a war of masks as much as a war of words. You would need to give an example and describe what you mean by the wrong lane. : A Cat Has Nine Lives: Cats seem to get away with dangerous things: A Cat in Gloves Catches No Mice: You can’t get what you need if you’re too careful. Having said that, you would be able to see a physical bus stop. Yes your picture is accurate! Why should their cautious driving slow everyone else down? A good reason for having a dashcam specifically pointing out of your offside windows perhaps? Also, read...https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/appendix-roundabouts where the 12 0'clock rule is explained. say a police service vehicle enters at speed leaving little choice but to slam on the breaks. Des Best wishes, Jeanne, PValentine1965@live.co.uk is my email Jeane if you are single by chance would be nice to hear from you off here, you sound nice, you also sounded miffed so I apologise if offence was caused, it was not my intent. going straight to the point; frank; direct; outspoken. Take a look at this and tell me who's in the wrong? The roundabout had only4 exits. to reproach in a mocking or contemptuous manner. You say that arrows in left lane say left/straight, arrows in right lane say straight/right. The 12 o'clock rule has been taught for decades & if you search the web, plenty of schools still teach it. In this scenario described above who has right of way? PPS, where exactly was it I will try and look it up on the online maps, 2 roads to pinpoint the roundabout please, 3 would be better. characterized by melancholy; longing; yearning; pensive. How do we " Road Users " get our interpretation acknowledged by the powers to be instead of "Word of Mouth " by driving instructors . Left lane for left and straight on and right for 'right'!! Des - the Highway Code does not say “Give way to what’s already on the roundabout”. not hesitating or fearful in the face of danger or rebuff; courageous and daring. My sisters hubbie got done by insurance and was blamed for 50% of the collision, he had gone over the line on a roundabout, anyway a car came tearing around the roundabout and drove into the side of him. The lorry (B) must have been waiting for me to move forwards in order for her to have been able to take the corner safely, so she would have been watching my vehicle constantly. neatly or effectively concise; brief and pithy, as language. Directions: From the A27 take the Lewes, East Grinstead, Tunbridge Wells exit onto the A26 at the Southerham Roundabout. The wording most likely changed because the inside lane is far shorter than the outside lane, therefore, a driver in the outermost lane of, say, a huge roundabout atop a motorway driving at 30mph would mean that any driver on the innermost lane would need to be travelling considerably slower in order to not overtake them - this would seriously inconvenience anyone behind & cause congestion. serious in intention or sincerely zealous. Seeing as diffident can be used as a tone word…timid could certainly be used as a word to describe an author’s tone. The problem is there are so many morons who just cut across the central blob, but that's them breaking the rules (rule 188). Anthony Paulus You are dead right. Got a scenario that's been bugging me. Coming off a roundabout, around two car lengths off the exit there was a road island. inclined to find fault or to judge with severity. I know now that it's not safe to change your mind on a roundabout, even though we once took the wrong exit somewhere near Edinburgh and had to drive for nearly half an hour before we had an opportunity to turn. If in doubt, wait! Free from ambiguity or pretense; plain and open: straightforward advice. Paul having read a lot of your replies, that is pretty much how I drive. not easily stirred or moved mentally; unemotional. Here's the problem. From Netdoctor. It mentions when you turn left and when you take a right turn but not straight ahead. Bold is an adjective that could be used to describe the tone of someone who is courageous. Unless indicated otherwise (by road markings including lane arrows and/or signposts) the left hand approach lane should be used. And since you have the right of way once in a roundabout, you can switch lane as there should be no other car one in the left ( incoming) lane.. As mini roundabouts were not around then I'm taking it that the very same applies on mini roundabouts also. The speed of the other vehicle or what they was doing is of no consequence to your case but a separate preosecution all on its own, any collision on the centre painted bit of a roundabout will be deemed to be that persons fault simply because you had no excuse for being there ( my sisters hubbie got done for more or less the same thing through his insurance ), if the car did block your way as they do then you should have simply waited. See more. Synonyms for very long include lengthy, long-winded, protracted, diffuse, interminable, overlong, discursive, long, prolix and tedious. Stay in in the left lane. Although there are laws about using a mobile phone whilst driving" - all caught on camera. Yesterday I allowed a bus that was ahead of me exit and waited for my turn. The Highway Code is not law. to enliven; invigorate; stimulate/ to make cheerful or merry. If I had approached the roundabout in the right hand lane I would have ended up behind the lorry (A) and not in the left lane on the roundabout beside it and straight behind the tipper truck. The driver turning right has priority. One big problem with straight roads with one side junction is people approaching on the straight road (to the right of the side junction) may be able to see the road ahead is clear, so can seemingly just ignore the mini roundabout totally, as there won't be anyone approaching from their right (flooring the accelerator in the process). If there are 2 lanes on the exit and the inside is not clear, keep in lane 2 throughout the turn but keep your left indicator on throughout, turn it off only if the car/s alongside you have gone ahead of you and lane 1 is clear ( don't forget to look over your left shoulder to cover blind spot ) or if you have got in front of the idiot who changed his mind. Thank you for your patience! belittling or undervaluing oneself; excessively modest. Hi, I would be interested in feedback on an incident I had on a roundabout. Rather like having a Bus Stop on a Zebra Crossing. ward (strāt-fôr′wərd) adj. devoted to or caring only for oneself; concerned primarily with one’s own interests, benefits, welfare. Little Red Riding Hood pulled the bobbin, and the door opened. I will sit and wait as it annoys the hell out of me when people do it. them for pulling out? an artistic composition, esp. expressing deep personal emotion or observations; Highly enthusiastic. If you are approaching at 6 o'clock and the vehicle at 9 o'clock has already entered the roundabout, it is now effectively 'in front of you' and you are behind that vehicle, just as if you were behind a vehicle on a road. Yes, all road users must go clockwise, unless, police/official person or roadworks indicate otherwise. The only priority rule is that drivers inside the roundabout have the right-of-way over any driver entering the roundabout, regardless of approach direction. Not to be confused with: weigh – determine the weight of something; to ponder and consider: Weigh your decision before going forward. full of fury, violent passion, or rage; extremely angry. I have a question. As I attempted to exit another vehicle undertook me and sounded their horn since to them I appeared to be crossing their right of way. hi Tim.....it would be illegal to use the right hand lane at a roundabout and try to come off the roundabout at a 1st or second exit unless that 2nd exit had 2 lanes.........the right hand lane should only be used if there is a 2nd lane on a 2nd exit road or for turning the circle to come off at a 3rd or 4th exit.........i admit if traffic is at a standstill causing tailbacks in the left lane and the right lane is clear then i jump in the right lane and go fully around the circle coming off at the 2nd exit which i would have done had i stayed in left lane........this is perfectly legal and i use indicators so folk know im proceeding around the circle/roundabout...im in uk.......been driving 30 yrs and never had 1 crash or incident. The story had held us, round the fire, sufficiently breathless, but except the obvious remark that it was gruesome, as, on Christmas Eve in an old house, a strange tale should essentially be, I remember no comment uttered till somebody happened to say that it was the only case he had met in which such a visitation had fallen on a child. If there was then your driving licence wouldn't be valid in EU as no other country has it :). In fact I stopped on the roundabout behind the tipper truck and did not move on when the tipper truck moved forward, I did not take up the space behind the tipper truck, I gave lorry (A) right of way again, I anticipated him wanting to change lanes at this stage even though he did not indicate he wanted to move from the right hand lane into the left hand lane in order to take the next turning off the roundabout at Regs way. Not that you’d care I would assume being all high and pompous. It's not as simplistic as you were told! This situation is sometimes due to bad road planning. Eg if you are approaching at 6 o clock, and there is a car at 9 o clock, you presumably have right of way, but why the 2 broken lines then? We passed the 1st exit and still drove on the outer lane. The first exit is straight ahead (I would use left lane) but the second exit is to the right (at say 2 or 3 o'clock) i would assume you need to use the right lane for this as the exit is over to the right but my partner says you can use the left hand lane as it's only the 2nd exit. gloomy, depressing, or dismal; extremely serious; grave. Whilst it may be sensible to let a speeding idiot carry on through a roundabout rather than pulling out in front of them, that does NOT mean the speeding idiot has the right of way! Can I just check that I'm right about this as the Highway Code doesn't specify this. I'm wondering how the scenario would play out - the highway code is the officially recognised handbook for learner drivers. 1 -people might be in entirely the wrong lane, and therefore could be going anywhere. If you picture the roundabout as a clock face, any exit from 6 o'clock (where you're entering) to 12 o'clock, you use the left lane. I do wish I had and reported this as it's been bothering me ever since. it was a very wide roundabout and I landed up behind a tipper truck (C), I did not enter lorry (A’s) lane, I did not overtake him in the left hand lane on the roundabout, I always maintained a safe distance behind him so that I could anticipate if he wanted to start to change lanes if and when necessary and I would be able to see him indicate. It is clear that the only opinion that is correct is the one that gets you to bypass the queue. hope that helps. If going straight ahead (considered to be anywhere between 11 and 1 on the clock) thendo not indicate until you are passing the exit prior to the one you want, If you are taking an exit after the 1 position then be in the right hand lane (if there is one) and stay to the right as you go round, indicating all the time. causing intense surprise, disgust, horror, etc. Anyway as I said if you was on the painted bit of the roundabout in the middle, you was not " on the roundabout " but off road. Pushing my wing forward and ripping it off in the process. Only done by selfish drivers. Point 5 Rule 151 I was in the lane marked 'ahead only'. Urbane: adjective, (Of a person, especially a man) courteous and refined in manner Synonyms: suave, sophisticated, debonair “Beneath its urbane surface all Mr. Hough’s music is, in one way or another, a crusade.” Source: "He’s the piano man" published in The Economist. Q: No we didn't indicate, neighter to stay on the roundabout or to take the exit. I was so shaken up by his behaviour I didn't think to get this maniac's reg no. Very confused by 2 things: 1) if you are approaching roundabout, and it has 2 broken lines in front of your lane, what are you meant to do? 1 .. You fail to drive according to the road and simply follow the mistakes of the car in front of you rather then think for yourselves Amber lights up during both sequences; red through green and green through red. ~ is that an accurate picture ???? It is illegal to queue or stop without cause as the person states. mutually/ hostile; unfriendly. having or showing a humility; free from ostentation or showy extravagance. Jez. We were still on the outer lane and just stayed in our lane to get to the 3rd exit. THE TURN OF THE SCREW. As I said, I was always told that once your on the roundabout regardless of the give way to the right side you then have priority of way because you have already started to cross. Q ~ was the inner lane marked for exit at that junction ? ashamed or embarrassed; also, disconcerted. If I'm at the give way lines to enter the roundabout and a car is 200 feet away do you wait and give them priority? So am I correct or not as it don't seem to say anything in the Highway Code in an event such as this. Had an incident one morning when a bus stopped in a roundabout , I was driving towards the roundabout and when tried to enter the roundabout my visibility was 0 because of the bus . The official handbook says nothing about moving over, the unofficial handbook says you should. This also goes for the car cutting in front of you and not using the roundabout in the correct way in other words treating it as a "T" junction rather than a mini roundabout at all. dark or dim; hopeless or despairing; pessimistic. It also depends on where the exits are in relation to your entry point. As soon as everyone had met up again, the blonde sidekick's real challenge had begun. If you are already on a mini roundabout/entered it and a car from the right then enters the roundabout after your already on it who then has the right of way. tending to entice into a desired action or state. a tone of accusation; to accuse of a crime or offense. 1. Not helped by a left turn only hospital exit just before meaning some cars need to go round said roundabout to effectively turn right out of the hospital. Thanks for your time and your opinion! Single or double broken white lines across your lane always indicate that you must give way to approaching traffic, whether at a Roundabout or other junction. I drive a vintage Land Rover and often I get to a roundabout and look each way and if clear enter it, but then a car approaches at speed from my right and tries to shoot over the roundabout only to find my vehicle in the middle in the process of turning right. 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